Four tough questions for protestants
Posted by Deeper Truth
Originally on: August 10, 2010
In a Youtube debate, I have posed 4 tough questions, for protestants that they refuse to attempt to answer. This is because all 4 questions strike at the very heart of what protestants view as God’s plan of salvation.
I am going to answer the questions one at a time there and record the discourse here as well as any lucid questions/ comments that may appear.
The four questions are;
1) When Paul preached to the Romans, did he do so with God’s authority?
2) What did Paul mean when he said that he had to fill up what was lacking in the sufferings of Christ? (Col 1:24)
3) Why was it necessary for Jesus to suffer?
4) Why did Jesus say that the cost of discipleship is that you must carry your cross?
The first question, academically,? is by-far the easiest, yet none of the 4 protestants in the room were willing to answer it (and still aren’t). The answer, obviously, is yes. Paul clearly spoke on God’s behalf. In other words, the WORD of God was transmitted through the PERSON of Paul and not just Paul’s letters. Paul PREACHED just as infallibly as when he wrote.
This proves two Catholic precepts
1) That “God’s Word” is not confined to Scripture ALONE, thus refuting Sola Scriptura.
2) God CAN transmit His infallible law through fallible human beings.
Any protestant not willing to concede these two points? is simply dishonest.
Further, Paul passed on his divinely established office to Timothy by the laying? on of hands.
2TM 1:6 For this reason, I remind you to stir into flame the gift of God that you have through the imposition of my hands.
The Bible is very clear that this anointing is passed on by direct? succession. There is no precept for someone receiving the authority by their own efforts.
I have just proven the Catholic doctrines of Scriptural authority, infallibility and Apostolic succession. All of this, with ONE question.
Question #2 overturns one of the most dishonest arguments protestants use, in the same way that Jesus overturned the tables of the money? changers. The argument of “sufficiency”. Protestants will claim that for a Catholic to suggest that a person must participate in his own salvation suggests that something is “lacking” in the sufferings of Christ. They will contend that such an assertion is Blasphemy.
It is pretty hard? to square that assertion of blasphemy with scripture.
Colossians 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church,
I have never once met a protestant who could provide an? answer for this passage. So I will…….
To look at this passage of scripture,? as a protestant, is to be shocked. After all, what could POSSIBLY be LACKING in the sufferings of Christ? Were I to say this, you would accuse me of blasphemy….. but this is the Apostle Paul speaking here.
This passage lays bare the dishonesty of the “sufficiency” argument because there are, in fact, TWO types of sufficiency, not ONE, as? the “reformers” dishonestly proposed.
The first is “Material” Sufficiency. That is, is there sufficient material to accomplish the job? In this case, the question would be, did Christ’s ”finished” work secure the graces needed for the salvation of every? man, woman and child on earth? The answer, of course, is yes.
The question is not in material sufficiency. The question is in “practical” sufficiency. Practical, as in ”practice”.
Does a Doctor have the material knowledge to do his craft? of course! but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to exercise his medical “practice” correctly.? To do so is “malpractice”
When Christ foretold His suffering and death, He instituted a “Covenant” in His blood. (Matthew 26:28). A covenant is a? binding agreement. It binds BOTH sides to the terms of the covenant.
What is? LACKING in the sufferings of Christ? YOUR side of the Covenant.
Even if you were to argue that all you must do is “confess with your mouth, and believe in your heart”, you would STILL be refuting practical sufficiency because you are acknowledging? that YOU have to do something. How ever, in Col 1:24, Paul expressly proposes SUFFERING as his part.
Thus, I have proven that suffering is a necessary part of salvation and proven Opes Dei? as built on a Biblical precept.